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Helminthosphaeria carpathica
Savic Dragisa, 27-12-2016 14:02
Hi,
I would say that this is (in accordance with Reblova 1999) Helminthosphaeria carpathica.
The spores are little less and the host is not wood. I found them on the rotten liana of Vitis silvestris. Eccentric septa is very typical.
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Jacques Fournier, 27-12-2016 19:20
Jacques Fournier
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica
Hi Savic,
ascospores of your fungus develop an eccentric septum tardily, unlike those of H. carpathica which are already septate in the ascus; they are likewise significantly smaller, thus it might be a different taxon.
Does your last photo show a basal, subicular hypha or a hair originating from the wall?
The setae of H. carpathica are fairly distinctive and might give a good indication.
Good luck!
Jacques
Alain GARDIENNET, 27-12-2016 22:30
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica

Hi friends,


I know very well this fungus (Jacques, AG10056), probably the same I've found several times on Pinus sylvestris. I remember having sent material to Andy. Perhaps has he got results ?


Dragisa, I can send my complete description to you in order to compare, if you want.


Alain

Savic Dragisa, 28-12-2016 08:02
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica
Thanks Jacques, hairs are from the wall. Here are some new pictures from this morning.

Hi Alain, great, send me a description to compare.
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Gernot Friebes, 28-12-2016 09:19
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica
Hi everyone,

the ascospores are also rather reminiscent of H. odontiae, aren't they? Helminthosphaeria is certainly not an easy genus sometimes...

Best wishes,
Gernot
Alain GARDIENNET, 28-12-2016 10:57
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica

Hi Gernot,


Those of odontiae are more ellipsoid apparently. But the concept of H. odontiae s.l. is probably not sufficient and  would merit molecular studies. Probably more than one species in this complex, and you're right, this genus is not easy !


Alain


 

Andrew N. Miller, 29-12-2016 17:43
Andrew N. Miller
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica
Dear Alain,

   Yes, I remember these specimens.  Unfortunately, the first one (AG 10056) had too few ascomata to sequence (only 8-10 ascomata), and the second recollection (same number), I sequenced a Hyphodontia (corticioid) - probably the basidiomycete that it is growing on.  I am happy to try a third time if you would like to collect again and send me more material.  These things are difficult to identify and to sequence!!!  ;o)

Happy NEw Year,
Andy
Alain GARDIENNET, 30-12-2016 07:32
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica

Hi Andy,


Thank you for the reply.


You said me these results, I remember now. I wil try to send you fresh material, with a sufficient number of ascomata.  Difficult to sequence, but not impossible for you, I think and I hope.


Best wishes, and happy new year.


Alain

Savic Dragisa, 30-12-2016 07:41
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica
Hi Andy,
I have about 20 ascomata, if you want I can send you, or to try to do here sequencing (Serbia).
Andrew N. Miller, 30-12-2016 16:18
Andrew N. Miller
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica
Thanks Alain!  Third time is the charm...;o)

Andy
Andrew N. Miller, 30-12-2016 16:20
Andrew N. Miller
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica
Sure, I am willing to give it a try.  If it is a new species, then better to have more than one collection with sequence data.

Thanks,
Andy

Dr. Andrew Miller
University of Illinois
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Andrew N. Miller, 06-02-2017 21:34
Andrew N. Miller
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica
Specimen received.  Fingers crossed.

Andy
Andrew N. Miller, 01-06-2017 18:36
Andrew N. Miller
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica
LSU failed, but B-tubulin worked fine.  This specimen comes close to Helminthosphaeria breviseta, but it is also possible that this specimen is a new species.  Running more analyses now.

Andy
Savic Dragisa, 01-06-2017 19:15
Re : Helminthosphaeria carpathica
Great, a few days ago I remembered this species and I thought to ask if was successful.