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Orbilia eucalypti/coccinella ?
Chris Yeates, 27-01-2013 18:58
Chris YeatesBonsoir tous
found on an attached Quercus twig, growing on old Colpoma quercinum; I am pretty sure that I have collected this before (lower image, with more abundant apothecia); the confused nomenclature does not help - am I correct in thinking that this is what would be now called Orbilia eucalypti? The spore dimensions - 3.8-4.5 x 2.1-2.6µm match O. coccinella here: http://www.librifungorum.org/Image.asp?ItemID=36&ImageFileName=SyllogeFungorum8-628.jpg further down the page the spore dimensions for O. eucalypti seem to be larger . . . .

any help welcome
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Chris
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Hans-Otto Baral, 27-01-2013 20:34
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Orbilia eucalypti/coccinella ?
Hi Chris

yes, it is quite typical O. eucalypti. The type of O. coccinella has reniform (C-shaped) spores, and eucalypti is the oldest available name. The species is actually frequent also in SW-Australia.

Brian Spooner sent me mayn years ago just such collection on Coploma quercinum. But this seems accidental rather than a constant connection. O. eucalypti is plurivorous.

If you tell me the place I will take up the nicely documented collection.

Zotto
Hans-Otto Baral, 27-01-2013 20:34
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Orbilia eucalypti/coccinella ?
Hi Chris

yes, it is quite typical O. eucalypti. The type of O. coccinella has reniform (C-shaped) spores, and eucalypti is the oldest available name. The species is actually frequent also in SW-Australia.

Brian Spooner sent me mayn years ago just such collection on Coploma quercinum. But this seems accidental rather than a constant connection. O. eucalypti is plurivorous.

If you tell me the place I will take up the nicely documented collection.

Zotto
Chris Yeates, 27-01-2013 21:10
Chris Yeates
Re : Orbilia eucalypti/coccinella ?
many thanks for that Zotto - details are:
small woodland area, Edgerton, Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
53°39'23.59"N
1°48'25.58"W
145 metres O.D.
05 January 2013
specimen - Herb. CSVY/F/2272

this is very close to where I recorded Hymenoscyphus aesculi: http://www.ascofrance.com/search_forum/19553 - the KMZ file on that thread takes you to the site in Google Earth


vielen Dank und die besten Wünsche


Chris

Hans-Otto Baral, 27-01-2013 21:41
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Orbilia eucalypti/coccinella ?
thanks, that is for me the same place :-)

I overlooked your remark on the type of eucalypti. here a short excerpt of my discussion:

(1) spores 7 × 3.5 µm (an error for 7 × 2.5 µm, according to the sketch in the type convolute in K). .... the asci are with †60–70 µm extraordinarily long, .... and the spores 5.2-7 x 2.1-2.4 µm.

(2) In a rather small apothecium of the holotype the asci and spores were found much smaller than in the large ones (asci †30–38 × 3–3.2 µm, spores †4 × 1.8 µm)

It remains unclear if the type is a mixtum of too very closely related taxa or only one variable species. But O. eucalypti as we apply the name is in fact very variable in spore and ascus size.

Zotto