10-06-2026 23:08
éric ROMERO
Bonjour tous, Je vous propose un Mollisia trouvé
10-06-2026 12:54
Steve ClementsBonjour encore, Pouvez-vous m'aider, s'il vous pl
09-06-2026 18:32
Camille MertensSur morceau de roseau immergé 0,5 - 0,7 mm de dia
10-06-2026 21:16
François Freléchoux
Bonsoir,Le dernier du jour, en attendant votre avi
10-06-2026 21:07
François Freléchoux
Toutes les tiges de gentianes jaunes de l'an passÃ
10-06-2026 13:41
François Freléchoux
Bonjour à nouveau, Voici une trouvaille d'hier.
10-06-2026 11:53
Steve ClementsBonjour, This disco is abundant on dead stems of
10-06-2026 10:45
François Freléchoux
Bonjour à nouveau, Encore une détermination qui
08-06-2026 10:16
I don`t have a clou about this fungus,it is not in
10-06-2026 09:24
François Freléchoux
Bonjour, J'imagine que cette détermination ne do
Asci with 4 spores
Jennifer Fiorentino,
01-12-2020 15:59
Franz Berger,
01-12-2020 17:16
Re : Asci with 4 spores
To possibilities:
First: 4 of 8 ascospores are vanishing in course of maturisation, in this case, You could find normally also asci with 6Â or 8 spores.
SEcond: nature has provided only 4 spores, which is the case in Pyrnidium actinellum and is not bound to the number of septa ! You will find this also in spores with 2 septa also, but normality are 8/ ascus..Â
In lichens there are also examples with 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, .../ ascus; e.g. Pertsuaria has some species with only 1 spore, which has no septum..Â
First: 4 of 8 ascospores are vanishing in course of maturisation, in this case, You could find normally also asci with 6Â or 8 spores.
SEcond: nature has provided only 4 spores, which is the case in Pyrnidium actinellum and is not bound to the number of septa ! You will find this also in spores with 2 septa also, but normality are 8/ ascus..Â
In lichens there are also examples with 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, .../ ascus; e.g. Pertsuaria has some species with only 1 spore, which has no septum..Â
Jennifer Fiorentino,
01-12-2020 20:03
Re : Asci with 4 spores
Many thanks for your input. I did identiify my lichenicolous fungus as P. actinellum based on the final 4 spores in the ascus as well as on presence of 3-septate spores and their size.. So if I understood your first statement correctly the development does not stop at the 4 spore stage but may go on and eventually "extra" spores do not mature further so ascus remains with its 4.
I agree with your second statement where you say that there is no connection between spore number and number of septa in each spore.
Thanks.
I agree with your second statement where you say that there is no connection between spore number and number of septa in each spore.
Thanks.

