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Parasite? pertecia on lecanora or host ulmus?
Robin Isaksson, 06-09-2020 22:26
Robin IsakssonHi

Found on fallen ulmus twigs. Dont know if its lichenicolous or if it grows on ulmus. But it seams that it will appear were lecanora is present. Ebr />Spores 26-30x 12-14um with epispor 4-5 um wide old Spores verrucose light brown.
Asci 125-145x 15-17 um
Asci lugol negative K+I negative
Asci 8 spored
Parafyses septate
Involucrellum react K+green


Anyone have seen anything like it or knows genus? 
i have tryed some keys with no match.

All the best,

Robin
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Zdenek Palice, 07-09-2020 15:59
Zdenek Palice
Re : Parasite? pertecia on lecanora or host ulmus?

Hallo Robin,


 


to me (as a lichenologist) the ascomata look like to belong to a saprophytic fungus


 


the lichen seems to be (almost) dead overgrown in some parts by colonies of epiphytic green (non-symbiotic) algae


what suggests the branch (and the lichen) is dead for relatively long period


lichenicoles are also usually much smaller


 


I must say that I am not the expert at all but tried to pass through some literature and older discussion on this forum


 


one of the candidates could be Dothidotthia ramulicola ?


 


discussed on the forum 6 years ago: see: "


 


http://www.ascofrance.com/forum/26773/didymosphaeria


 


the discussed specimen is at least seemingly slightly similar to yours, which could be immature? as noted in the discussion by Walter Jaklitsch for this taxon?


 


but maybe I am completely wrong, better to ask an expert on bitunicate pyrenomycetes


 


according to the description in the monograph by Barr (1989) in Mycotaxon this species should form gregarious ascomata on a stroma


perhaps the mentioned taxon is a dustbin name ?


 


all the best


 


Zdenek


 

Robin Isaksson, 09-09-2020 20:51
Robin Isaksson
Re : Parasite? pertecia on lecanora or host ulmus?
Hi Zdenek!

Thank you for the replay and your effort to find a candidtae.
As you say we could exclude lichenicoles, I will ask Walter to se if it is the species you named but as it seams it is only pertecia one by one  and no gregarious ascomata on a stroma but i will cut and look closer on material when i home.


All the best,

Robin