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Unknown Pyrenomycete
Andreas Gminder, 05-08-2015 19:41
Andreas Gminder

Dear all,


found today on an lying dead stem of Fagus, initial stage of decomposition.


Macroscopically I first thought it might be something like Lasiosphaeria hirsuta, but the spores a different and quite striking.


Spores becoming slightly brownish with age, bean-shaped, 27-32 x 8,5-11 µm, with two or three big oil drops.
Asci without reaction on Lugols/Barals.


Has anyone an idea were to search for?


thank you and best regards,
Andreas

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Gernot Friebes, 05-08-2015 19:47
Re : Unknown Pyrenomycete
Hi Andreas,

could be something like Helminthosphaeria stuppea (formerly Lasiosphaeria s.). Have a look at this paper: http://www.ascofrance.fr/uploads/forum_file/Helminthosphaeriaceae-Miller-et-al-Mycologia2014-0001.pdf. />

Best wishes,
Gernot
Andreas Gminder, 05-08-2015 20:11
Andreas Gminder
Re : Unknown Pyrenomycete

Dear Gernot,


thank you very much, that looks very promising!
May be Jacques can confirm this :-)


best regards,
Andreas

Andreas Gminder, 05-08-2015 20:19
Andreas Gminder
Re : Unknown Pyrenomycete

Hallo Gernot,


wieso kennst Du diese Art eigentlich?
Ich wollte mal etwas darüber recherchieren, aber die Art ist noch nicht mal in unserem TaxRef-Liste für Deutschland enthalten - scheint also neu für Deutschland zu sein?!


beste Grüße,
Andreas

Jacques Fournier, 05-08-2015 20:50
Jacques Fournier
Re : Unknown Pyrenomycete
Hi Andreas and Gernot,
this would be my guess too, around H. stuppea.If you read the Mycologia paper you will see that the delimitation of these species is not fully resolved.
Good luck!
Jacques
Andreas Gminder, 05-08-2015 20:53
Andreas Gminder
Re : Unknown Pyrenomycete

Dear Jacques,


thanks a lot!
Not fully resolved means, that it is not certain that the european collections are identical to the american ones. But the european collections are identical one to each other, isn't it?


Is this a rare species? I don't find anything in german language on that species ....


best regards,
Andreas

Jacques Fournier, 05-08-2015 21:01
Jacques Fournier
Re : Unknown Pyrenomycete
It is basically an American taxon, rarely recorded. The few European collections are very similar to the type but exhibit some variations between them especially as to ascospore morphology and also slightly deviate from the American material. A situation we are unfortunately familiar with!
Jacques
Gernot Friebes, 05-08-2015 21:52
Re : Unknown Pyrenomycete
Hi Andreas,

just a few weeks ago we had a collection of a "typical" H. stuppea, i.e. one that fits the description in the Mycologia article quite well. Unfortunately I won't have access to the photos of this collection until next week so I can't show them right now.

And a few years back I found a species that came close to H. stuppea but had deviating ascospores. That was the collection that intruduced me to this intricate group. :-)

Best wishes,
Gernot