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Nectria/Bryonectria
Ralf Dahlheuser, 31-12-2014 15:44
Ralf DahlheuserHello all,

I found this Nectria/Bryonectria ?  and i have problems with the specifications. It grows on decaying moss. I'm not sure whether the species is a parasite or saprophyte.
Maybe someone can help.

It will do next year :-)

Very best wishes for an exciting and fungus-filled New Year
Ralf
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Alain GARDIENNET, 01-01-2015 11:59
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : Nectria/Bryonectria

Hi Ralf,


Probably not muscicolous. You should try to get a 5%KOH negative reaction, because it looks like Bionectriaceae like Bionectria or else Hydropisphaera. The moss you show is an hepatic, but perhaps not the host of the Bionectriaceae, the reason why you didn't find it in Döbbeler's papers (I suppose that you have searched in these german works).


Let's wait for Chritian's opinion.


Happy day, happy new year,


Alain

Ralf Dahlheuser, 01-01-2015 15:32
Ralf Dahlheuser
Re : Nectria/Bryonectria
Hello Alain,

many thanks for your opinion. The discovery site is a pure sandy soil and this kind sits exclusively directly on the illustrated moss. Certainly, it also grows a little Barbula here and there, but I can find out no infections or direct contact. But I find Myzelium or infections in the illustrated moss.
Test KOH is negative.


 


Happy new Year


Ralf

Ralf Dahlheuser, 03-01-2015 17:36
Ralf Dahlheuser
Re : Nectria/Bryonectria
I have to mark a supplement.
After more exact consideration rests from nostoc-cultures are found between the moss. Also they are possible as a substrate.
Christian Lechat, 03-01-2015 21:07
Christian Lechat
Re : Nectria/Bryonectria
Hi Ralf,
could you make a vertical section through ascomatal wall?
I think Alain is right, it could be the genus Hydropisphaera but without knowing how is made the wall , it is imposssible to say.

Happy new year to all members of the Ascofrance forum.

Christian
Ralf Dahlheuser, 04-01-2015 12:48
Ralf Dahlheuser
Re : Nectria/Bryonectria
Hi, Christian,

I have tried my best one. The kind is very soft and it is difficult to do a neat cut. I hope, You can recognize something on it. To the better contrast I have dyed the test.

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Christian Lechat, 04-01-2015 16:21
Christian Lechat
Re : Nectria/Bryonectria
OK, Hydropisphaera is a good idea, you should check  the ascospores size and their ornamentation.

Regards,
Christian
Ralf Dahlheuser, 05-01-2015 18:44
Ralf Dahlheuser
Re : Nectria/Bryonectria
Hi Christian,

Thank you for your help. The spore dimensions are 13.3-14.9 x 7.4-8.3 microns. A photo of the spores I had inserted above. Unfortunately I missed to color the spores and my stuff is now consumed. So I can not say anything for ornamentation. My mistake.

Ralf Dahlheuser, 11-01-2015 18:27
Ralf Dahlheuser
Re : Nectria/Bryonectria
Today I have brought fresh material. After colored with cotton-blue can detect subtle warts. However, these are very small and hard to photograph. Maybe it helps.
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