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Aide sur Hyaloscyphaceae
Nicolas VAN VOOREN,
30-09-2012 11:25
Bonjour.Trouvé sur branche mort de Salix, ce minuscule Hyaloscyphaceae de forme urcéolée.
Apothécies grisâtres, à marge couverte de petits poils blancs.
Excipulum composé de cellules à paroi réfringente. Poils externes grisâtres. Poils marginaux courts, 22-28 x 3.5-5 µm, hyalins, à sommet obtus.
Asques avec crochet, 68-75 x 6-8 µm, anneau apical IKI + (bb)
Paraphyses sans vacuole.
Spores 8-11 (12) x 2.5-3 (3.2) µm, contenant quelques guttules (OCI=1)
J'ai cherché du côté des genres Olla, Unguiculella, etc. sans succès. Une idée ?
Hans-Otto Baral,
30-09-2012 12:05
Re : Aide sur Hyaloscyphaceae
I only imagine Protounguicularia barbata (Olla transiens), but the typical hairs are missing. Are ther really true croziers?
Zotto
Zotto
Nicolas VAN VOOREN,
30-09-2012 13:46
Re : Aide sur Hyaloscyphaceae
Thank you Zotto.
I just made a new preparation in KOH 5%. I saw some marginal hairs with refractive tip.
I confirm that asci have crozier at their base.
I just made a new preparation in KOH 5%. I saw some marginal hairs with refractive tip.
I confirm that asci have crozier at their base.
Hans-Otto Baral,
30-09-2012 16:06
Re : Aide sur Hyaloscyphaceae
And you do not only ?mean protuberances? because P. barbata has simple septa though crozier-like protuberances. Is the crozier on one of your photos?
Alessio Pierotti,
30-09-2012 20:49
Re : Aide sur Hyaloscyphaceae
Nicolas this is the study of the genus Protounguicularia by Huhtinen (1987)
HUHTINEN_1987
Björn Wergen,
01-10-2012 12:21
Re : Aide sur Hyaloscyphaceae
Hi Pierotti,
thanks for the doc. Do you have more pdfs of the "Beiträge zur Kenntnis der Pilze Mitteleuropas"? I would be interested in it (especially Ascomycetes).
regards,
björn
thanks for the doc. Do you have more pdfs of the "Beiträge zur Kenntnis der Pilze Mitteleuropas"? I would be interested in it (especially Ascomycetes).
regards,
björn
Nicolas VAN VOOREN,
01-10-2012 18:19
Re : Aide sur Hyaloscyphaceae
About the "crozier", this is much like what you call protuberance (as drawn by Huhtinen, 1987, fig. 1B). I used the term crozier because I thought it could be associated with the "type pleurorynque à crochet libre" as represented by Berthet in his thesis (1964, p. 99, fig. 2).
Hans-Otto Baral,
02-10-2012 08:59
Re : Aide sur Hyaloscyphaceae
yes, in France it is subsumed under pleurorhynque . But fact is that the nuclei are not normal dicaryons that divide and finally one returning to the basal cell, as we can see from the missing cell fusion.
In the Orbilia monograph I will treat this issue, see here.
Zotto
In the Orbilia monograph I will treat this issue, see here.
Zotto
