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Castillo Joseba,
03-04-2025 12:44
Me mandan en matgerial seco de Galicia (España), recolectado en madera de AcaciaA ver si hay alguna sugerencia
Saludos
Joseba
Enrique Rubio,
03-04-2025 12:48
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Hola Joseba.
Probablemente Pyrenopeziza aquosa. De esta especie puse tan sólo hace unos días una ficha en Ascofrance. A mi juicio se trata de una especie muy interesante.Un abrazo
Probablemente Pyrenopeziza aquosa. De esta especie puse tan sólo hace unos días una ficha en Ascofrance. A mi juicio se trata de una especie muy interesante.Un abrazo
Castillo Joseba,
03-04-2025 12:59
Re : Discomycete
Gracias chaval, un abrazo
Hans-Otto Baral,
03-04-2025 21:01
Re : Discomycete
Yes indeed, earlier called "Mollisia" dextrinospora. I would include this find in my manuscript if you send me collection data.
Michel Hairaud,
03-04-2025 21:27
Re : Discomycete
Hi Zotto,
Do you prefer P. aquosa to P. dextrinospora (actually not yet published ) and also : did you notice the publication of Cadophora dextrinospora (Korf) Koukol & Maciá-Vicente 2020 ?
AmitiésMichel
Do you prefer P. aquosa to P. dextrinospora (actually not yet published ) and also : did you notice the publication of Cadophora dextrinospora (Korf) Koukol & Maciá-Vicente 2020 ?
AmitiésMichel
Hans-Otto Baral,
03-04-2025 22:24
Re : Discomycete
Yes I did. Luis studied authentic P. aquosa and confirmed the identity. At the moment I have this species under the third name subglobosa (see my folders), but auqosa is the oldest.
Enrique Rubio,
04-04-2025 13:15
Re : Discomycete
Mollisia dextrinospora Korf would be an epithet to discard for this collection of Joseba and also for mine (see my record in Ascofrance) since in the prologue it is said that the asci are absolutely J(-).
I could also observe that some spores inside the asci take on a reddish colour and that they also seem to have a very fine asperulate ornamentation. On the other hand, it fits quite well with Berk. & Broome's protologue.
I also do not know whether Baral's combination in Pyrenopeziza aquosa of Baral in IF is fully valid although I suspect it does.
I could also observe that some spores inside the asci take on a reddish colour and that they also seem to have a very fine asperulate ornamentation. On the other hand, it fits quite well with Berk. & Broome's protologue.
I also do not know whether Baral's combination in Pyrenopeziza aquosa of Baral in IF is fully valid although I suspect it does.
Hans-Otto Baral,
04-04-2025 21:48
Re : Discomycete
Yes, the protologue says definitely inamyloid, even after KOH. But Luis reexamined the type (CUP 1557), you can see the photos also in my folder subglobosa dextrinospora Macaronesia, and the apical rings were there and deep blue!
I think the combination I did by thinking of the species with smooth non-reactive spores.
Enrique Rubio,
05-04-2025 11:56
Re : Discomycete
There must be some mistake, because it seems impossible to me that Korf did not see that huge number of bluish pores.
I still think your combination is good because the spores I was able to study seem to have a very fine, barely visible ornamentation that went unnoticed by Bek. & Broome.
I still think your combination is good because the spores I was able to study seem to have a very fine, barely visible ornamentation that went unnoticed by Bek. & Broome.
Hans-Otto Baral,
05-04-2025 12:08
Re : Discomycete
Yes, the warts are easily overlooked and vary, depending on maturity. From Luis' reexamination there is no doubt about the ID of dextrinospora, including warts on the spores.
In my folder of "subglobosa" for England I have photos of an authentic specimen of aquosa, made by Mariko Parslow: Mollisia aquosa, K(M)264807, ex herb. Berkeley. The warts are indistinctly visible, but the quality is not good. Comgo Red would have been required. The type is apparently missing.
In England the species is most often collected on Ilex, and apparently alsways in association with Nectria punicea var. ilicis, which led people there to believe that it is specialized on that plant and fungus. In Bretagne JPP finds it mostly on Ulex. Since sequences from Ilex are missing, I cannt finally conclude that P. aquosa is a plurivorous species, although I am quite sure.
Enrique Rubio,
05-04-2025 13:30
Re : Discomycete
Here my data collection:Bosque-Jardín de la Fonte Baxa, Luarca, Asturias, Spain,
26.III.2025, 49 m of altitude, on a corticated fallen log (80 mm in diam.) of Acer platanoides, leg. D. Palma, det. E. Rubio, ERD-10049 (to be deposited in the herbarium of the Faculty of Biology of the University of León).
26.III.2025, 49 m of altitude, on a corticated fallen log (80 mm in diam.) of Acer platanoides, leg. D. Palma, det. E. Rubio, ERD-10049 (to be deposited in the herbarium of the Faculty of Biology of the University of León).
Hans-Otto Baral,
06-04-2025 21:05
Re : Discomycete
Ah. another collection! Here as I include it:
Asturias, 0.5 km NW of Lluarca, Bosque-Jardín de la Fonte Baxa, 49 m, log of Acer platanoides, on bark, 26.III.2025, D. Palma, vid. E. Rubio (ex ERD 10049, LEB).
I am sure you have a docu?
Enrique Rubio,
06-04-2025 21:25
Re : Discomycete
Hi Zotto.
Few days ago I sent a file to Ascofrance. But I must make a correction: today I saw that the wood was Liriodendron tulipifera and not Acer platanoides.
I can send you my docu at higher resolution. I don't know Joseba's data, sorry.
Few days ago I sent a file to Ascofrance. But I must make a correction: today I saw that the wood was Liriodendron tulipifera and not Acer platanoides.
I can send you my docu at higher resolution. I don't know Joseba's data, sorry.
Hans-Otto Baral,
06-04-2025 21:35
Re : Discomycete
Joseba sent me his data. I cannot remember your posting.
Enrique Rubio,
06-04-2025 22:40
Re : Discomycete
See last records.
Hans-Otto Baral,
06-04-2025 22:47
Re : Discomycete
I am unable to locate your post. Was it under the name Mollisia aquosa?
Michel Hairaud,
07-04-2025 06:39
Re : Discomycete
Hi Zotto, look in the Ascofrance database :
http://www.ascofrance.fr/recolte/5294/leotiomycetes-helotiales-cordieritidaceae-pyrenopeziza-aquosa
Michel
http://www.ascofrance.fr/recolte/5294/leotiomycetes-helotiales-cordieritidaceae-pyrenopeziza-aquosa
Michel
Hans-Otto Baral,
07-04-2025 10:54
Re : Discomycete
Ah, thanks! I never look there :-(
Google Earth says Llaurca, are there different spellings?
Enrique Rubio,
07-04-2025 11:32
Re : Discomycete
The correct is Luarca (in Spanish).