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12-06-2013 10:31

Garcia Susana

HiThis small ascomycete was found over dry leaves

13-06-2013 11:38

Rubén Martínez-Gil Rubén Martínez-Gil

Hola a todos.Pongo unas fotos de especie que encon

12-06-2013 13:49

Salvador Tello

Hola a todos. Encontré estos hongos en Somiedo,

11-06-2013 20:53

Enrique Rubio Enrique Rubio

Hi again Someone knows where Godronia rosae is pub

04-06-2013 00:27

Malcolm  Greaves Malcolm Greaves

This Scutellinia was found on recently turned soil

03-06-2013 21:18

Martin Bemmann Martin Bemmann

Dear all,yesterday I found these tiny ascomata (~0

11-06-2013 14:29

Stefan Blaser

Dear allI'm looking for identification literature

11-06-2013 20:51

Enrique Rubio Enrique Rubio

Hi again Someone knows where Godronia rosae is pub

31-05-2013 14:38

Enrique Rubio Enrique Rubio

Hi to allCould these conidia to belong to the anam

08-06-2013 08:29

Maren Kamke Maren Kamke

Hello again,I found this one one wood (Angiosperma

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Hymenoscyphus ?
Garcia Susana, 12-06-2013 10:31
Hi
This small ascomycete was found over dry leaves of Quercus.
Small in size, about 0.2 mm in diameter. Not seen croziers.
I think it could be Hymenoscyphus but I have many doubts.
Any contribution?
Thanks, greetings

Susana
(Navarra-Spain)

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Nicolas VAN VOOREN, 12-06-2013 11:16
Nicolas VAN VOOREN
Re : Hymenoscyphus ?
It reminds me the genus Mollisina. I only know M. rubi which grows on fallen leaves of Rubus. My collection seems close to yours. The second photograph shows "hairs" on leaf, so I don't think it is Quercus... Please check that.
Did you also test the amyloid reaction of ascus ring after a mount in KOH? It should be blue.
Nicolas
Yannick Mourgues, 12-06-2013 12:31
Yannick Mourgues
Re : Hymenoscyphus ?
On dirait qu'il y a une réaction rouge de l'asque sur la photo 3, non ?
Yannick
Nicolas VAN VOOREN, 12-06-2013 12:55
Nicolas VAN VOOREN
Re : Hymenoscyphus ?
Oui, c'est pour cela que je préconise le test avec KOH pour contrôler qu'il s'agit d'une réaction hémiamyloïde (ce que j'avais noté sur ma récolte de M. rubi).
Yannick Mourgues, 12-06-2013 13:00
Yannick Mourgues
Re : Hymenoscyphus ?
Tu as raison.Attendons sa réponse.
Garcia Susana, 12-06-2013 16:07
Re : Hymenoscyphus ?
Hello again:
I've been tested KOH + IKI proposal, and indeed, the species is hemiamyloide.
With respect to the substrate, I have no doubt, is Quercus.

I can identify it as Mollisina rubi  regardless of the substrate?
thank you very much.


Susana

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Stip Helleman, 12-06-2013 23:29
Stip Helleman
Re : Hymenoscyphus ?
Hi Susanna,
Your spores seems to be too big for M. rubi, I think M. acerina fits better although your asci seems a bit tall but of coarse it is a comparisation with dead material.  (in my collection the ascus reaction was rb in IKI). Raitviir 2004 gives also Quercus as substrate.

cheers,
Stip
Garcia Susana, 13-06-2013 08:58
Re : Hymenoscyphus ?
Hello
I have valued the two possibilities M.acerina and M. rubi
Looking at the information available note that the size of the spores and asci overlap and I think they are not defining characters. What seems clear is that the spores to M.acerina no gutulas (= 0), while a small gutulas at both ends (= 1) are present in M.rubi.
Based on this I favor M.rubi although the substrate (deciduous trees) was more in accordance with M.acerina.
I searched the literature you mention, but not available (RAITVIIR, A. 2004. Revised synopsis of the Hyaloscyphaceae. Scripta Mycologica 20: 1-133) could send it to me?

Thanks again


Susana?

Stip Helleman, 13-06-2013 11:04
Stip Helleman
Re : Hymenoscyphus ?
Hi Susanna,
it would not surprise me as it turns out to be one variable species, as for now I don't see any other deciding difference as the substrate in my collections, but Raitviir gives smaller spores for rubi. M. acantophila as a seperate species is also in his synonymy-list of rubi.
A downloadlink is in your mailbox

Stip
Garcia Susana, 13-06-2013 11:42
Re : Hymenoscyphus ?
I read the article you sent me and I think it increases the confusion.
I can archive it as Mollisina cf. ruby
In any case, I have learned a lot of the genre.
Greetings

Susana