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Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Bo Valeur, 16-04-2021 22:02
Bo ValeurHi there
This Nice Lachnum was found on a dead branch of Calluna vulgaris under mosses on 26.February 2021 in NWZ Denmark.
the spores are abouot 10 um Long and 3-3.25 broad. Wonder if it could be Lachnum callunae. Spore picture, 10 stribes are 22.5 um.
Thanks
Bo/Denmark

salut
Ce joli Lachnum a été retrouvé sur une branche morte de Calluna vulgaris sous des mousses le 26 février 2021 dans la ZNO du Danemark.
les spores mesurent environ 10 um de long et 3-3,25 de large. Je me demande si ça pourrait être Lachnum callunae. Image de spores, 10 stribes font 22,5 um.
Merci
Bo / Danemark

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Michel Hairaud, 16-04-2021 23:08
Michel Hairaud
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris

Hi Bo,


I do not know what Lachnum callunae is . Is it in the sense of Dascysyphus callunae Rehm ou a lately described species I overlooked ?


Your macro pictures shows a fungus with the appearence of a species common on Calluna (and other substrates) : L. virgineum , which is characterized by present croziers and no Vbs in paraphyses. Paraphyses are  protruding the asci by 20-30 µM and rather broad (5-7 µm) . All these characters you can check in water mounts.


Are you sure about the 3-3,25 µm broad ? From the scales you show, they appear about the distance between 2 strikes.


Amitiés


Michel


 

Bo Valeur, 17-04-2021 07:56
Bo Valeur
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Hi Michel and thanks for your reply. Lachnum callunae Baral ined. is on the Danish list, but I don't know more.
I am new to microscope, but the calibration should be ok. The spores looks different in size, and surely I can be wrong on this matter. The distance between the strikes should be 2,25um, so some of the spores are rightly this size. Others looks a bit thicker on a new picture uploaded, but again pictures are taker with a Mobile phone, and perhaps not good enough. L. virgineum Is common in Denmark, so it seems more likely to be the one.
Thanks again.
Bo

Salut Michel et merci pour votre réponse. Lachnum callunae Baral ined. est sur la liste danoise, mais je n'en sais pas plus.
Je suis nouveau dans le microscope, mais l'étalonnage devrait être correct. Les spores ont une taille différente et je peux sûrement me tromper à ce sujet. La distance entre les frappes devrait être de 2,25 um, donc certaines des spores ont à juste titre cette taille. D'autres semblent un peu plus épais sur une nouvelle image téléchargée, mais encore une fois, les images sont prises avec un téléphone portable, et peut-être pas assez bonnes. L. virgineum Est commun au Danemark, il semble donc plus probable que ce soit celui-là.
Merci encore.
Bo

Michel Hairaud, 17-04-2021 08:15
Michel Hairaud
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris

Hi Bo,


There actually is a Dasyscyphella callunea  (nom. prov.) in a Lachnum key by Zotto . It seems that hairs in your collection are verrucose till the top , so it matches with Lachnum


Michel

Bo Valeur, 17-04-2021 08:25
Bo Valeur
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Thanks again Michel :)
I will look into the key you mailed.
Bo
Hans-Otto Baral, 17-04-2021 09:37
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Without docu of living paraphyses and ascus base & iodine reaction, as well as hair length I would not dare saying anything. Substrate alone is insuffucient for ID.
Bo Valeur, 17-04-2021 12:27
Bo Valeur
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Thanks Hans-Otto
I will see if it's possible for me to document any of your suggestions on Monday. I don't have iodine, but perhaps some Melzer can be used instead.
Bo
Hans-Otto Baral, 06-04-2025 21:33
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Melzer is also iodine but not the best for discos. In this case it would be o.k., I do not know a hemiamyloid reaction in Lachnum on wood.
Hans-Otto Baral, 07-04-2025 11:15
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
I now remeasured the spores and arrive at *7.5-10 x 2-2.4 µm. I assume you did your photos without oil immersion? I think this fits L. virgineum and excludes L. callunae which we are going to describe as *(8-)9-12(-14) × (2.3-)2.6-2.8-3.6-4.0(-4.5) µm.

If your measurements were right I would agree with L. callunae.
Bo Valeur, 07-04-2025 15:56
Bo Valeur
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Thanks Hans-Otto
You are right I did not use immersion oil.
It ended up as Lachnum sp., but i did find a L. Calluna in 2023, which is accepted in Denmarks Svampeforum. It no easy.at all...:)
Hans-Otto Baral, 07-04-2025 16:43
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Can you give me the link to the post in that Svampeforum?
Hans-Otto Baral, 07-04-2025 20:29
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
I tried to go to Svampeforum but cannot find any Lachnum
Bo Valeur, 08-04-2025 11:20
Bo Valeur
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Here is link to my L. calluna at Svampeforum:

https://svampe.databasen.org/observations/10340943
Hans-Otto Baral, 08-04-2025 11:51
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Thanks, but are there any microscopic data?
Bo Valeur, 08-04-2025 12:45
Bo Valeur
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Not mentioned can I see, and i cannot Remember if any sadly.
The 12 accepted danish finds are listed here. 
https://svampe.databasen.org/taxon/69628
Hans-Otto Baral, 08-04-2025 17:14
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Too bad, I was not aware of this. Seems impossible to detect such entries by web search.
Bo Valeur, 08-04-2025 18:30
Bo Valeur
Re : Lachnum found on Calluna vulgaris
Yes it is not easy to find these on the web. Confirm founds will also t hough figure on international web also.