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Hymenoscyphus aff fucatus? H-
Viktorie Halasu,
10-10-2020 18:05

can I call this H. fucatus H-, or are the spores still too short? Only one spore had 2 very short setulae, others without. VBs medium refractive. On Rubus fruticosus stem.
edit: host is R. caesius
Thank you in advance.
Viktorie
Hans-Otto Baral,
10-10-2020 18:13

Re : Hymenoscyphus aff fucatus? H-
Very difficult to answer! I would still consider H. scutula, despite the absence of long setulae. A difficult case, particularly since we know almost nothing about genetics in H. scutula.
Oh, I must correct myself, I had a wrong remembering, here is an ITS tree showing the true scutula in green and some other genotypes.
Viktorie Halasu,
10-10-2020 19:44

Re : Hymenoscyphus aff fucatus? H-
Dear Zotto,
thank you very much. Is this collection different enough that it would be useful to sequence it?
Viktorie
thank you very much. Is this collection different enough that it would be useful to sequence it?
Viktorie