excellent! I think this is Bryoscyphus turbinatus, although it is not a Bryoscyphus because of the Calycina type of apical ring, very good to see here, also the guttulate VBs in paraphyses are absent here.

Clearly the croziers are absent, and this was also seen in samples by Bernard Clesse and JP Priou. I see some resemblance to Arachnoscypha, but this is only a faint idea.

Zotto

Hi Ruben,

Nice collection and nice photos. I agree with Zotto, of course as to the identification of B. turbinatus . DId you also observe crystals in the Excipulum ?

In the collection I had the opportunity to study last year, I had noticed hardly visible croziers.

Amitiés Michel

Hola Zotto, Michel, gracias por su ayuda.

Subo más fotos de base de ascas, aunque yo creo que no tiene croziers. A veces parece que sí, pero creo que sea formación de nueva asca, no un crozier. No se, es mi opinión, yo he visto pocas veces esto, así que os pongo fotos.

Michel, no he visto o no me ha llamado la atención la presencia de cristales en excípulo. ¿cómo deberían ser?

Saludos

Rubén

 

Yes Ruben your pictures of ascus bases are much clearer than mine I join the only one I have which does not really show crozier. I also join a pic with what I think show crystals.

Thanks for sharing your work

Amitiés

Michel

Hi Michel

I never saw crystals in this species. Whjere did you see them, outside the apos?

But I was surpsized to see warted hair-like structures in Ruben's fungus. A warted subiculum woul dbe typical of Arachnopeziza and -scypha.

Bonjour Zotto

Yes, it was outside the excipulum, I think.

I have also these warted structures, as in attached pic.

Michel

But this looks like paraphyses? Do you have more photos, macro, mature asci?

Hi Ruben,

Torsten Richter offers to examine the host of this collection, to identify the moss. Or do you have an idea what it is? He would need a portion, however, best including a sporogone.

Zotto

Hola a todos.

Subo 2 fotos más de pelos.

Zotto, yo estaría encantado si me ayudara a la determinación del musgo, aunque tengo sólo 4 ramitas que son las que tenían los apotecios. ¿Cuánto material necesita? Yo se lo envío.

Rubén

I think that one stem would be enough. I just asked for his address.
here it is:

Torsten Richter
Forstweg 26
D-19217 Rehna
Germany

Hi zotto,

Yes paraphyses are finely warted . I join some more pictures but I have a rather poor documentation or this collection and unfortunately no good photo of mature asci. I also noticed IKI blue Calycina type and spores 16-21 x 3.5-4 µm

Michel

Oh, and with rather long apo stalk. This is not JPP 14005 on Polytrichum, leg Mila?

Yes , MH 160114

Hola Zotto.

¿Sabe si recibió y analizó Torsten Richter las muestras de musgo?

Yo envié hace tiempo la muestra.

Gracias

Rubén

Dear Ruben

Torsten got your moss on Tuesday and will look at it at the weekend. He would like to know the substrate, which kind of soil. Also he would appreciate your photos of the moss.

When you send me those I will forward him and translate.

Zotto

Hola Zotto.

Le envío fotos a su correo privado sin reducir.

También datos.

Gracias

Rubén

Hi Ruben

Torsten just wrote me, "it is Rhytidiadelphus triquetrus. Not to confuse with squarrosus which is very common."

He assumes that he can keep this portion (?).

Zotto

Sí,

muchas gracias por la ayuda prestada para la determinación del musgo, Torsten.

Gracias también a usted, Zotto, por su ayuda en la determinación y por ponernos en contacto con Torsten.

Saludos

Rubén