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Flageloscypha
Miguel Ángel Ribes,
17-11-2010 21:20
Good nightI caught this little mushroom, less than 0.5 mm on Echinospartum horridum thinking it was an ascomycete, but the surprise is that it has tetrasporic clavate basidia, ellipsoidal spores, sometimes with a slightly flatter side, hairs with thick walls and covered with large granulations, tapering towards the apex and ending in a long thin flagellum smooth, without granules and sometimes bifurcated.
The spore measures are:
(6.9) 7.4 - 8.6 (8.9) x (3.8) 4.3 - 5.7 (6.1) µm
Q = (1.3) 1.34 - 1.8 (2.1) ; N = 31
Me = 7.9 x 5 µm ; Qe = 1.6
Flageloscypha pilatii have similar hair, but the spores are elongate, almost fusiform. F. orthospora has similar spores but the hairs have thin walls ¿?
Thank you in advance with this no asco.
Miguel Ángel
Miguel Ángel Ribes,
17-11-2010 21:29
Pierre Thomas,
17-11-2010 22:03
Re:Flageloscypha
Did you see:
http://www.mycokey.com/MycoKeySolidState/species/Flagelloscypha_minutissima.html
Maybe these pictures are helpful?
Pierre
http://www.mycokey.com/MycoKeySolidState/species/Flagelloscypha_minutissima.html
Maybe these pictures are helpful?
Pierre
Miguel Ángel Ribes,
17-11-2010 23:32
Re:Flageloscypha
Yes, I saw, but Funga Nordica said that F. minutissima has 2-spored basidia, pip-shaped to citriform spores, thin-walled hairs and ¿easily collapsing at base?
Thank you Pierre
Miguel Ángel
Thank you Pierre
Miguel Ángel
Miguel Ángel Ribes,
18-11-2010 12:58
Re:Flageloscypha
I have see that Agerer (1975) described some Flagelloscypha. Anyone has this paper?
Sydowia 27(1-6): 211 (1975) [1973-4]
Thank you
Miguel Ángel
Sydowia 27(1-6): 211 (1975) [1973-4]
Thank you
Miguel Ángel
Martin Bemmann,
18-11-2010 14:17
Re:Flageloscypha
Hi Miguel,
here ist the description of F. minutissima by Agerer. He is dicussing there a variant that has basidia with four sterigmata:
http://www.mycobank.org/MycoTaxo.aspx?Link=T&Rec=297459#Descriptions
Another description with nice drawings:
http://www.botany.pl/pubs-pdf/Acta%20Societatis%20Botanicorum/2004/4_331334.pdf
Cheers,
Martin
here ist the description of F. minutissima by Agerer. He is dicussing there a variant that has basidia with four sterigmata:
http://www.mycobank.org/MycoTaxo.aspx?Link=T&Rec=297459#Descriptions
Another description with nice drawings:
http://www.botany.pl/pubs-pdf/Acta%20Societatis%20Botanicorum/2004/4_331334.pdf
Cheers,
Martin
Miguel Ángel Ribes,
19-11-2010 00:42
Re:Flageloscypha
Thank you Martin, then Flagelloscypha aff. minutissima.
Anyway I would like to review F. orthospora and other Flagelloscypha in Sydowia 27: 131-265 (1975) and Sydowia 35: 5-12 (1979), but I do not have them.
Miguel Ángel
Anyway I would like to review F. orthospora and other Flagelloscypha in Sydowia 27: 131-265 (1975) and Sydowia 35: 5-12 (1979), but I do not have them.
Miguel Ángel
Martin Bemmann,
19-11-2010 10:26
Re:Flageloscypha
Hi Miguel,
I don't have his article but you will find his description of F. orthospora in MycoBank as well:
http://www.mycobank.org/MycoTaxo.aspx?Link=T&Rec=314159
Best regards
Martin
I don't have his article but you will find his description of F. orthospora in MycoBank as well:
http://www.mycobank.org/MycoTaxo.aspx?Link=T&Rec=314159
Best regards
Martin
Miguel Ángel Ribes,
19-11-2010 12:59
Re:Flageloscypha
Hi Martin
I am going to try to translate Mycobank description.
Thank you
I am going to try to translate Mycobank description.
Thank you
Martin Bemmann,
19-11-2010 13:16
Re:Flageloscypha
Hi Miguel,
I corrected the above link. Try Google translator. The translation is not too bad, however, it translates "Lachnella" as "laughter Ella" ;-)
I corrected the above link. Try Google translator. The translation is not too bad, however, it translates "Lachnella" as "laughter Ella" ;-)
Miguel Ángel Ribes,
19-11-2010 14:17
Re:Flageloscypha
Hi Martin
Not too bad. :o/
Thank you
Not too bad. :o/
Thank you






