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Castillo Joseba Castillo Joseba

Del pasado dia 4  en bosque de hayas, en tierraA

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Del pasado sabado, en bosque de hayas y avellanos,

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Una para ID
Castillo Joseba, 19-12-2021 12:49
Castillo Josebame mandan el material seco, recolectado sobre tierra entre el musgo

No he podido ver mas que 2  esporas fuera del asca
A ver si hay alguna sugerencia
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Lothar Krieglsteiner, 19-12-2021 12:56
Lothar Krieglsteiner
Re : Una para ID
looks like Melastiza chateri (alias Aleuria cornubiensis).
Best, Lothar
Hans-Otto Baral, 19-12-2021 16:14
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Una para ID
Hallo Lothar & Joseba

I once studied the spore ontogeny in M. chateri/Aleuria cornubiensis and A. aurantia in comparison, see the two files in my folders:

Aleuria cornubiensis, LB ontogeny.JPG - multiguttulate

Aleuria aurantia, LB ontogeny.JPG - biguttulate

The mature living spores sharply differ between the two.

So the present collection cannot be the same as what I call M. chateri.

I do not know about the types, perhaps someone knows. I. Fungorum has M. chateri and M. cornubiensis as two different species. Perhaps the synonymy link is simply lacking?

Zotto
Martin Bemmann, 19-12-2021 17:02
Martin Bemmann
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According to IF both have a surviving holotype in Kew, but the links do not work:



Regards

Martin
Viktorie Halasu, 19-12-2021 19:05
Viktorie Halasu
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Hello all,

the present collection seems to be two species actually: one with brown hairs (Melastiza cf. cornubiensis) on macro photo, other (Aleuria aurantia?) on micros. I don't see any brown(ish) hairs on the excipulum photo, also biguttulate spores and rather long+thick spore appendages suggest Aleuria aurantia. Checking the ascus base would help. From what I've seen, A. aurantia has simple ascus base, while A. cestrica, A. congrex, Melastiza cornubiensis, M. carbonicola, M. flavorubens, M. contorta have all 2 septa (croziers).  

The synonymy of Peziza cornubiensis, P. chateri and Humaria miniata was stated by Moravec (1994, type studies of all three), as far as I know. 
http://www.czechmycology.org/_cm/CM47401.pdf

Viktorie
Hans-Otto Baral, 19-12-2021 20:23
Hans-Otto Baral
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Indeed, I have in my A. aurantia folder a photo by Raul Tena (Oct. 2011) showing simple septa.

The same is shown in Berthet 1964 Fig. 19.
Castillo Joseba, 20-12-2021 12:40
Castillo Joseba
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He hecho algo mas de micro, mirando sobretodo la base de las Ascas, lo pongo a ver si os aclara elgo
Saludos y gracias por comentat


Felices fiestas
Joseba
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Hans-Otto Baral, 20-12-2021 14:45
Hans-Otto Baral
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o.k., this covers all, simple septa and croziers. Joseba, how many apothecia of this sample did you study up to now? Is this variation within a single apothecium, or do the ascus bases come from different apos?
Castillo Joseba, 20-12-2021 15:51
Castillo Joseba
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He recibido 2 apotecios , que son los que se ven en la foto macro, y todas las micros estan hechas sobre trozos del apotecio mayor, que pienso que es el mas maduro,  todas  son una variación sobre el mismo apotecio
Joseba
Castillo Joseba, 20-12-2021 15:51
Castillo Joseba
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He recibido 2 apotecios , que son los que se ven en la foto macro, y todas las micros estan hechas sobre trozos del apotecio mayor, que pienso que es el mas maduro,  todas  son una variación sobre el mismo apotecio
Joseba
Hans-Otto Baral, 20-12-2021 16:12
Hans-Otto Baral
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o.k. What is the mounting medium of the two biguttulate spores in the middle of pic 2? Were they in water?
Castillo Joseba, 20-12-2021 18:53
Castillo Joseba
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Azul de Lactofenol
Hans-Otto Baral, 20-12-2021 22:03
Hans-Otto Baral
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Lactophenol is a high-concentrated solution, maybe 50%. It kills immediately. Over 30 years ago I made a video with Guy and Achim for the IMC4 where we added lactophenol to multiguttulate spores, and you can see in this video how the oil drops fuse to one big drop at the blink of an eye.