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13-06-2025 16:34

Andgelo Mombert Andgelo Mombert

Bonjour,Un petit discomycète qui me résiste. Il

13-06-2025 09:41

Josep Torres Josep Torres

Hello.A cerebriform ascomycete sprouting scattered

21-07-2025 19:22

Ethan Crenson

Hello all,  Here is an Orbilia found by a friend

14-07-2025 11:20

Michel Hairaud Michel Hairaud

Bonjour, Voici une espèce de  (?) Hyaloscyphace

18-07-2025 23:03

Josep Torres Josep Torres

Hello.Fruitings between 51 and 130 microns in tota

17-07-2025 11:55

Castillo Joseba Castillo Joseba

De ayer en bosque de hayas y abetos, en tieraEjemp

16-07-2025 17:34

Bernard Declercq Bernard Declercq

Hello,I have trouble distinguishing above mention

15-07-2025 13:27

Angel Pintos Angel Pintos

Hello, does anyone have access to the following ar

16-01-2023 21:31

Riet van Oosten Riet van Oosten

Hello, Nearby the find of Calycina claroflava on

14-07-2025 17:55

Yanick BOULANGER

BonjourAutre dossier laissé en suspendJe viens de

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Orbilia/Hyalorbilia on "pyrenomycete"
Edvin Johannesen, 24-05-2021 21:41
Edvin Johannesen
Hi!

This tiny (0.2-0.3 mm), orange one is growing on a stromatic sordariomycete (overgrown by something alike Echinosphaeria) on Salix caprea. I have no ID on the sordario yet.  Southern Norway in humid ravine.

The Orbilia/Hyalorbilia has broadly ellipsoid spores with one distinct SB at each pole.  Measure ca. 2.5-3 x 5 micr.  Spores appear more subglobose in water and more ellipsoid with slightly pointed ends in CB (see photos).  Dead asci (I think) do not look truncate. Paraphyses broadly cylindrical.

Suggestions based on this limited information?
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Hans-Otto Baral, 24-05-2021 22:24
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Orbilia/Hyalorbilia on "pyrenomycete"
This is not orbiliaceous, perhaps a Hyaloscypha. Iodine reaction of asci is negative?
Edvin Johannesen, 24-05-2021 22:36
Edvin Johannesen
Re : Orbilia/Hyalorbilia on "pyrenomycete"
I will check IKI. (Why is is it not orbiliaceous?)

Thanks.
Hans-Otto Baral, 24-05-2021 23:01
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Orbilia/Hyalorbilia on "pyrenomycete"
The conical ascus apex would be very unusual, also there are no spore bodies I think.
Edvin Johannesen, 25-05-2021 16:28
Edvin Johannesen
Re : Orbilia/Hyalorbilia on "pyrenomycete"
You were right, of course, Zotto. The asci apices are hemiamyloid (brownish in Lugol, haven't checked KOH pretreatment). I initially thought there were two species growing side-by-side on the pyrenomycete, but now I realise that the Cistella-like whitish ones and the more reddish, smooth ones are the same. I attach a few photos og the paler, Cistella-like apothecia. I suspect I have the same as Enrique found back in 2014: http://ascofrance.fr/search_forum/27839

I think I have seen gelatinised hyphae. But the marginal "hairs" I have not spotted in the microscope.  Has the Hyphodiscus "Cistella" been further evaluated?


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Hans-Otto Baral, 25-05-2021 17:53
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Orbilia/Hyalorbilia on "pyrenomycete"
The limits to Hyphodiscus are not yet clear and there are no news about that.
Edvin Johannesen, 25-05-2021 18:06
Edvin Johannesen
Re : Orbilia/Hyalorbilia on "pyrenomycete"
OK, thanks!