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Asco sur Carpinus ou Fagus
Yannick Mourgues,
20-10-2020 19:02

Ascomes jaunâtres de diamètre 1mm max.
Textura globulosa.
Spores bisériées dans les asques.
Asques avec crochets, IKI+ bleu.
Paraphyses cylindriques larges de 2 µm, apex arrondi, sans gutulle.
Spores 7,4-10,7 x 2,8-3,5 µm pour N= 23 - Q=2,2-3,4 aves toutes petites gutulles.
Une idée ?
Merci d'avance.
Yannick
Lothar Krieglsteiner,
20-10-2020 19:49
Re : Asco sur Carpinus ou Fagus
a Mollisia, perhaps (without comparing accurately) M. olivaceocinerea.
Best, Lothar
Best, Lothar
Hans-Otto Baral,
20-10-2020 20:17
Re : Asco sur Carpinus ou Fagus
A section would be necessary, is the excipulum hyaline also near the base?
Yannick Mourgues,
20-10-2020 21:45
Re : Asco sur Carpinus ou Fagus
Thank's a lot Lottar and Zotto.
Here are more information :
Textura sous-hyménium : textura angularis with hyalin cells. Thickness 60-70 µm.
Textura excipullum ectal : textura globulosa with brown cells (on all the excipullum). Thickness 30 to 50 µm in the middle.
Margin made with hyaline cells.
Yannick
Yannick Mourgues,
20-10-2020 21:47
Re : Asco sur Carpinus ou Fagus
Apos with KOH-
Hans-Otto Baral,
20-10-2020 21:55
Re : Asco sur Carpinus ou Fagus
O.k., the spores look to me like a Mollisia, not Pyrenopeziza. Then the paraphyses should contain refractive VBs (in water).
Yannick Mourgues,
20-10-2020 21:59
Re : Asco sur Carpinus ou Fagus
No, I don't see refractive VBs in paraphyses. May be dead ?
Yannick Mourgues,
20-10-2020 21:59
Re : Asco sur Carpinus ou Fagus
I will sequence it.
Hans-Otto Baral,
21-10-2020 08:11
Re : Asco sur Carpinus ou Fagus
Ha, if you have that possibility!
If you have your disco fresh, I would be surprized if all paraphyses were dead. You chekced it in water?
Yannick Mourgues,
21-10-2020 16:19
Re : Asco sur Carpinus ou Fagus
Hello. I have checked again but all paraphysis are empty.
Yannick
Hans-Otto Baral,
21-10-2020 20:25
Re : Asco sur Carpinus ou Fagus
So let's wait for the sequence. It would be good to show a photo, because only then I can estimate this observation (whether they really were alive).










