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identification request
Iosif Sandor,
01-04-2020 11:34
Hi forum,
Sorry if i am somehow out of the topic (or forum interest) but I would be very glad to hear your opinion about the following images. I have no idea there to look for something similar. All specimens were found in caves.
Group 1:
- stem = aprox. 200-350 mm long & 10-15 mm in diam. (at the base)
- cap = aprox. 8-12 mm in diam.Some of them (nr 1 to nr 4) were in completely darkness, somehow farther from the entrance.
Group 2:
- stem = up to 50-60 mm long & 8-15(20) mm in diam.
- cap = aprox. 8-14 mm in diam.
Found at the entrance proximity, hidden in dark (not totally dark) places.
Group 3:
- up to 4-5 mm in diam.
Found at the entrance proximity, in shadowed, subdued light.
Best regards & many thanks,
Iosif
Hans-Otto Baral,
01-04-2020 11:36
Re : identification request
The third could be a Phaeohelotium, e.g. P. imberbe (= Hymenoscyphus imberbis).
Lothar Krieglsteiner,
01-04-2020 11:41
Re : identification request
Hello Losif,
fungi growing without enough light often have atypical appearances, and it is very often not possible to say a lot. But ... -
the first fungus could perhaps be something like a marasmioid fungus, it reminds me a bit of Mycetinis alliaceus. Was there a smell?
The second fungus could be many things, but reminds me a bit of a very young Psathyrella (? - or Tubaria).
Only a guess.
Best, Lothar
fungi growing without enough light often have atypical appearances, and it is very often not possible to say a lot. But ... -
the first fungus could perhaps be something like a marasmioid fungus, it reminds me a bit of Mycetinis alliaceus. Was there a smell?
The second fungus could be many things, but reminds me a bit of a very young Psathyrella (? - or Tubaria).
Only a guess.
Best, Lothar
Iosif Sandor,
01-04-2020 12:12
Re : identification request
Many thanks Lothar,
...you have already helped me once. I'm aware about the "unusual" medium that creates "unusual" shapes but i take it as a challenge. My problem is that i'm not a profesional and for me is hard to find useful informations. For instance, it is found somewhere any bibliography about such unsusual/aberrant forms that can be taken under such conditions?
I know that i'm asking to much...
Best regards,
Iosif Sandor,
01-04-2020 12:16
Re : identification request
Thanks Hans-Otto,
I'll check. Any information is useful for me.
Best regards,
Lothar Krieglsteiner,
01-04-2020 12:22
Re : identification request
... sorry, but I do not know such a work (about aberrant forms). By the way, the second fungus does not look very aberrant.
Are there microscopical details? The cheilocystida (they are surely present at fungus 2) could help, even if there are no ripe spores.
Best, Lothar
Are there microscopical details? The cheilocystida (they are surely present at fungus 2) could help, even if there are no ripe spores.
Best, Lothar
Gernot Friebes,
01-04-2020 20:13
Re : identification request
Hi, everyone,
the second species reminds me of an Armillaria, in fact I think the black "threads" visible on the photos could be the rhizomorphs typical of that genus.
Best wishes,
Gernot
the second species reminds me of an Armillaria, in fact I think the black "threads" visible on the photos could be the rhizomorphs typical of that genus.
Best wishes,
Gernot
Lothar Krieglsteiner,
01-04-2020 20:19
Re : identification request
Hello Gernot,
yes - you could be right.
Best, Lothar
yes - you could be right.
Best, Lothar
Iosif Sandor,
01-04-2020 20:38
Re : identification request
Hi Gernot,
Based on your guess I've checked some images and find this. Interesting.
Thanks and best regards,
Iosif
