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Small black asco from a leafy twig
Mirek Gryc, 28-02-2020 21:21
Hi.

We found this fragment of the branch together with my friend, on the edge of the forest, in a place where almost all bushes were cut down.
The sporocarps were dry but I gathered because they interested me in their different appearance. After hydration they look very interesting. However, they are still completely immature. Despite this, I decided to post some photos.
Could this be any Dermea species?
Mirek

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Hans-Otto Baral, 28-02-2020 21:30
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Small black asco from a leafy twig
Perhaps Heterosphaeria on a dicot stem? is the substrate woody? But that does not grow so gregarious and hasn't gel outside.
Mirek Gryc, 28-02-2020 21:37
Re : Small black asco from a leafy twig
Hi Zotto
Yes, it's definitely wood!
(Salix, Prunus, and others)
I'll take pictures of the substrate later. I wait for the fruiting bodies to ripen but I ask because I would like to know what to pay special attention to?
I don't think I've ever had such microscopes?
Mirek
Hans-Otto Baral, 28-02-2020 21:52
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Re : Small black asco from a leafy twig
Do the conidia occur inside the asci?
Adam Polhorský, 28-02-2020 22:15
Re : Small black asco from a leafy twig
Surely this is the Viktoria`s species on Prunus padus. Mirek, Zotto look here http://ascofrance.com/search_forum/53107

Is P. padus possible? it would be good to verify. I saw it recently aswell, also completely immature. Seems to be a bit early for it.
Mirek Gryc, 28-02-2020 22:24
Re : Small black asco from a leafy twig
Zotto,
So far, I haven't seen it?
I didn't want to spoil the material. Everything is very small. Sporocarps up to 0.5mm. I couldn't get a thin section today. I'll try later!

Hi Adam
Yes, of course P. padus very likely!
Thank you! It will probably be this species.
I will let you know how they mature !!
Once again, thank you everyone again!
Mirek

Hans-Otto Baral, 28-02-2020 22:44
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Small black asco from a leafy twig
Hi Adam, indeed this possibility I also had in mind, but I could not remember that the apos are cleistohymenial there.
Viktorie Halasu, 29-02-2020 00:12
Viktorie Halasu
Re : Small black asco from a leafy twig
Hello all, 

yes, indeed, immature teleomorph + anamorph. I found the anamorph already on 25th December, seems to prefer the wet and colder part of the year. It's great, another locality.

Mirek, would you please send me the collection data? Was it a thin branchlet? Still attached to a living tree or recently cut? There are some spores visible inside one ascus, maybe those "conidia" are immature spores from damaged ascus? They look rather similar.

Viktorie

Mirek Gryc, 29-02-2020 08:04
Re : Small black asco from a leafy twig

Hi Victorie.
As I mentioned earlier, this part of the forest was almost completely cut down. I found the sporocarps on a small fragment of a twig lying along with others on the ground. I suspect that the fruiting bodies of the fungus developed on growing branches. The felling was carried out not long ago.

I didn't have time yesterday, so I only took a few pictures. The reason for this was poorly ripe fruit bodies so there was no point in cutting them. Of course, I still grow them and I will try to check everything thoroughly. What I have marked as conidiospores are them. Proper spores are bigger but the pictures have not kept scale so it can be misleading.


The location is shown on the map:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1CccqU7DQhbqU9ynURZjauxQ7GVEWdWS0&hl=pl&ll=53.18188550000004%2C23.28406289999998&z=17


The macroscopic features are very similar to Godronia ribis, which I encountered several times on Ribis. I thought so at first, but the microscopic features are completely different.
Here are my Godronia ribis:
http://www.grzyby-pk.pl/gat_g/gat_godronia_ribis.php


Regards
Mirek

Mirek Gryc, 04-03-2020 06:45
Re : Small black asco from a leafy twig
Hi

I saw the first free spores yesterday.
It looks like these collections are of the same genre.

Mirek
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