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Some genera for this asco
Elsa Sousa, 01-03-2015 13:07
Could someone give me a clue on this? I found these ascos growing on soil. We call it "saibro" soil here, I'm not sure about it's translation. They are less than 1 cm in diameter.

All photos on http://mushroomobserver.org/199975?q=2WLbx

Thank you
Elsa
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Hans-Otto Baral, 01-03-2015 15:23
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Some genera for this asco
Any micros? What is the size of the apos?
Elsa Sousa, 01-03-2015 18:16
Re : Some genera for this asco
Thank you Otto. I have no means for doing microscopy. Ascos have less than 1cm the bigger is the left one on this photo. Colors are between very light brown to darker brown, as seen in MO link.
Hans-Otto Baral, 01-03-2015 18:24
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Some genera for this asco
Discinella boudieri would be a possibility if inoperculate, but Operculates look also very similar.
Elsa Sousa, 01-03-2015 19:05
Re : Some genera for this asco
Thank you Otto. I bet your shot is right.
Lothar Krieglsteiner, 01-03-2015 21:57
Lothar Krieglsteiner
Re : Some genera for this asco

Hello Elsa,


difficult - or better impossible - without micros. Anyway, I would suggest Marcelleina.


Regards, Lothar

Stip Helleman, 03-03-2015 00:18
Stip Helleman
Re : Some genera for this asco
Hi Elsa,
my suggestion is Sphaerosporella hinnulea, the soil looks periodically overflowed which could be an indication.
Stip
Peter Püwert, 03-03-2015 01:03
Peter Püwert
Re : Some genera for this asco
Hello all,
I agree with the previous speakers, but without microscope an exact determination isn't possible.
Lothar and Stip, the spot, where I made the pictures from D. boudieri, is known to You (Lycop. innundata, Omphalina mutila et al. Remember You ?) !
Greetings
Peter.
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Stip Helleman, 03-03-2015 01:29
Stip Helleman
Re : Some genera for this asco
Ja Peter ich erinnere mich, bei Neuhaus am Rennweg.
Ein wunderbarliche Strecke.
Stip
Karen Hansen, 03-03-2015 07:51
Karen Hansen
Re : Some genera for this asco
Seems many options for this. It could also very well be a species in the Peziza s. str. group. There are many that produce apothecia along river banks or small streams on sand, gravel or small stones like here. The apothecia colors, texture and shape fits perfectly for that too. Did you dry and keep the collection?  Always an option to pass it on to somebody else who might be interested, if you do not have a microscope.
Elsa Sousa, 05-03-2015 20:27
Re : Some genera for this asco
Well I sent some fresh specimens to Björn Wergen. Let's see if they survived to these days of transportation and he can get to a conclusion.
Maybe it's not a bad idea at all to pick more specimens, if in conditions, to dry, just in case.

Thank you all for your time and suggestions.
Elsa
Björn Wergen, 05-03-2015 22:36
Björn Wergen
Re : Some genera for this asco
Hi,

as I said, this can be Peziza sepiatra. We will see :)

regards,
björn