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once again I am searching for some literature. These are not easy to get but I hope that you can help me. :)
-) Maharashtra Vidnyan Mandir, Patrika 7(1-2): p. 63 (1972) (description of Herpotrichiella martyniae). Rao.
-) Botaniska Notiser ?: p. 258 (1897) (?description of Pyrenophora delicatula). Author?
-) Jahreskatalog der Wiener Kryptogamen-Tauschanstalt: p. 3 (1897) (description of Pyrenophora delicatula). Diagnoses micromycetum premissae. Vestergren.
-) Pyrenomyceter (Ascomyceter) på Salix i Troms: p. 126 (1985) (description of Herpotrichiella collapsa). Mathiassen.
Best wishes,
Gernot
Herpotrichiella collapsa is in G. Mathiassen: Some corticolous and lignicolous Pyrenomycetesn s. lat (Ascomycetes) on Salix in Troms, N Norway = Sommerfeltia 9 (1989), p.51-54 described as sp. nov. I can make tomorrow a scan of it and send it to you by e-mail.
Best, Uwe
yes, but Index Fungorum says that this name is published both in "Pyrenomyceter (Ascomyceter) på Salix i Troms" and Sommerfeltia 9, so I'd need the description published in the first publication (I already have the Sommerfeltia). Here is what Index Fungorum says: http://Indexfungorum.org/Names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=129044.
Thanks anyway!
Best wishes,
Gernot
For me it sounds a little bit strange that he published the same species two times as sp. nov.
Best, Uwe?
Mathiassen, G. (1985) Pyrenomyceter (Ascomyceter) på Salix i Troms 205 pp. Høsten: Universiteti Tromsø. So stehts im Speciesfungorum
Gruß Peter
@Peter: Nein, noch für rein private Zwecke. :) MycoBank also gives "Pyrenomyceter (Ascomyceter) på Salix i Troms (1985)" for H. collapsa.
Best wishes,
Gernot
Gruß Peter
Best wishes,
Gernot
if the first study is not offically published, then the new description shouldn't be valid. If this is true I understand why Mathiassen published the species a second time, now valid. On the other hand I don't understand the entry in the Index Fungorum because the second study should be then authorative. I am mistaken or is the situation more complicated?
Best, Uwe
I don't unterstand this either. I'll try to contact Mathiassen and let you know if there are some news.
Best wishes,
Gernot
voilà le second (Vestergren - Anteckningar till sveriges ascomycet-flora).
Eric
Vestergren-1897-0001.pdfGernot
I am looking for some literature. These are not easy to get but I hope that you can help me.
I tried my best to access to these papers but it was not possible till now,I count on your help and encouragement to do it,
1- LE GAL Marcelle - Quelques Discomycètes de Tunisie. - 1952, p. 7 à 16 - mycologie, flore mycologique, discomycètes, tunisie, kroumirie- 5 fig. - Saisie : Jean TIMBAL Art. n°18234.
2- MALENCON Georges - Contribution à l'étude des champignons de la Kroumirie. - 1952, p. 33 à 52 - mycologie, flore mycologique, kroumirie, tunisie, localité - 2 pl. - Saisie : Jean TIMBAL Art. n°18229.
the two papers belong to one of the following Bulletins:
Bulletin de la Société Botanique de France, Bull. Soc. Bot. Fr. (1904), Tome 99 - Fascicule 7-9 - 1952 -
Bulletin de la Société Botanique de France, Bull. Soc. Bot. Fr. (1904), Tome 99 - Fascicule 4-6 - 1952 -
Bulletin de la Société Botanique de France, Bull. Soc. Bot. Fr. (1904), Tome 99 - Fascicule 1-3 - 1952 -
3- Énumération des champignons observés en Tunisie par Narcisse Patouillard/ Paris : Imprimerie Nationale , 1892.
4- Illustrations des espèces nouvelles, rares ou critiques de champignons de la Tunisie par Nrarcisse Patouillard / Paris : Impr. nationale , 1892-1895.
5 -Additions au Catalogue des champignons de Tunisie par N. Patouillard / Paris : Impr. nationale , 1909.
Best Wishs
Ridha El Mokni
The first, by mail.
Beñat
Geir Mathiassen confirmed that the correct basionym is "Herpotrichiella collapsa Math., Sommerfeltia 9: 51 (1989)", so Index Fungorum and MycoBank are wrong in this case.
Best wishes,
Gernot